Comments from the August 5, 2004 Public Meeting

Pro Willy St. Co-op Card number Total

Prefer Willy St. Co-op over Trader Joe's 7, 9, 10, 11, 13, 14, 17, 19, 20, 27, 30, 32, 34, 35, 36, 37, 39, 42, 45, 48, 50, 52, 53, 55, 56, 57, 60, 62, 63, 64, 66 31

Is local/committed to Madison 10, 13, 19, 30, 34, 35, 41, 48, 50, 63 10

Is a full-scale grocery store/can buy daily needs 10, 37, 50, 59, 60, 64, 65 7

Attracts less traffic/parking 14, 53, 55, 57, 64 5

More suitable for this neighborhood 17, 36, 39, 53 4

Has healthy/fresh/quality food 46, 53, 56, 57 4

Won't compete/be a rival to Regent Co-op 19, 20, 50 3

Gives back to the community 19, 30, 35 3

Pays a living wage 19 1

Better environmental impact 10 1

Is member owned 13 1

Understands/draws student population 55 1

Anti-Willy St. Co-op Card number Total

0

Pro-Trader Joe's Card number Total

Loves/likes Trader Joe's 1, 57 2

Anti-Trader Joe's Card number Total

Not a full-scale grocer/not fresh food/like an upscale stop 'n go/so-called "gourmet" foods/Yuppie store/can't fulfill all needs 4, 34, 37, 46, 60, 64 6

Will bring in more traffic/parking problems 10, 31, 41, 55, 64, 66 6

Doesn't fit in with the neighborhood 11 1

Won't shop there 31 1

Primarily commuter store 35 1

Tourist destination 65 1

Not a neighborhood grocery store/gathering place 10 1

Miscellaneous comments on grocery store Card number Total

Appreciate commitment to providing a grocery store 22, 27, 30, 49, 57, 66 6

Concerned about negative impact on Regent Co-op 1, 8, 24, 29 4

Important that grocer be long-term/make lease affordable, especially initially 14, 17 2

Either Willy St. Co-op or Trader Joe's is acceptable 49, 59 2

Prefer Willy St. Co-op, but Trader Joe's is acceptable 57 1

Concerns with building design Card number Total

Too tall/too massive/out of scale for neighborhood/not in keeping with neighborhood character/make at least 1 story shorter 1, 2, 11, 12, 14, 15, 16, 18, 24, 25, 28, 31, 36, 39, 40, 41, 43, 51, 54, 56, 58, 59, 61, 62, 24

Don't like color/yellow too bright 1, 9, 10, 32, 33, 36, 56, 60 8

Will cast shadow on nearby residences/block out sunlight/obliterate view of sky 13, 14, 24, 30, 40, 49, 54, 58 8

Air/noise/light pollution/lights at night from parking lot/grocery store 3, 14, 25, 30, 41, 47, 58 7

Don't like number of units/inhabitants 14, 25 2

Don't like round windows 18 1

Don't like modern/contemporary design 24 1

Curved aspect above tip of building is pretentious 56 1

Doesn't like height on Spooner side 18 1

Facade facing downtown is too grand 24 1

Built out to corners/not enough open space 40 1

Looks like suburban office park 56 1

Loading entrance on West Lawn means more noise for residents 58 1

Strengths of building design Card number Total

Overall design impressive/excellent/imaginative/like it/support it/great project 5, 6, 9, 10, 16, 17, 18, 19, 21, 22, 25, 29, 35, 37, 38, 41, 42, 43, 45, 47, 48, 49, 52, 54, 64, 66 26

Thoughtful design/attempts to address neighborhood's needs/developers responsive 5, 11, 24, 35, 37, 38, 42, 49, 59 9

Height is best we can hope for if we want a grocery store/necessary to support cost of development/benefits of grocery store outweigh costs of infill development 33, 38, 47, 65, 66 5

Like multiple faÃ§ades/attempts to break up faÃ§ade 10, 11, 24, 36 4

Like/need condos in area 7, 10, 25, 53 4

Like density 25 1

Like creative entryways 56 1

Like creative parking solutions 56 1

Like terrace garden 42 1

Like colonnade 56 1

Happy to have affordable housing in neighborhood

Comments on public plaza Card number Total

Don't like concrete/cold/unwelcoming/unnatural/plaza needs grass/greenery 3, 16, 21, 42 4

Get rid of phallic symbol in center of plaza/tree or fountain instead 32, 34, 56 3

Plaza needs definition 30 1

Monroe St. Commercial Plan folks should be involved in plaza design/uses/landscaping 10 1

How about hedge screening from Monroe/Grant intersection? 21 1

People meet on sidewalk/in store/don't need big common area 27 1

Spooner St. end jars eye above the first floor 33 1

Like circular plaza 32 1

Other comments on building design Card number Total

Not in favor of city subsidy just so we can get a shorter building 38 1

Opens door for high-rise developments on Monroe Street 40 1

Will "green" building techniques be used (besides recycling)? 50 1

Looks very "4th Ward infill-ish" 33 1

Reassured by developer's ties to neighborhood 35 1

Believes people will be genuinely excited about Monroe Commons 15 1

Happy to have affordable housing in neighborhood 49 1

Alternatives/Ideas/Suggestions Card number Total

Wants to see perspective drawings/relationship to rest of neighborhood/comparable developments in Madison 12, 32 38, 45, 59, 61 6

Consider a development without a grocery store/with more small retail/give up grocery store to get smaller building 2, 58 2

Keep building materials consistent with neighborhood/use brick 16, 32, 33 1

Include bike racks/covered bike parking/bus benches 32, 47 2

Could library go in additional retail space? 29, 32 2

Wants a hardware store 59 1

Wants a video store 23 1

Arthur Ross should be involved in discussions 3 1

Make the building go deeper in exchange for shorter 30 1

Get rid of plaza in exchange for shorter building 27 1

Like to see everything on a web page 38 1

Maximize energy efficiency/geothermal/solar 47 1

Be a leader on construction/demolition waste 47 1

Improve on current stormwater situation 47 1

Put parking under plaza so building isn't so large at Spooner corner 18 1

Project needs more outdoor "hanging out" space 30 1

Address safety at night, especially on plaza end/doors to underground parking 36 1

Could address height issue by varying height/accentuating the "3 different buildings" 54 1

Traffic Concerns Card number Total

Increased traffic on West Lawn & Harrison/dangerous for pedestrians/needs calming device 2, 14, 25, 41 4

Increased traffic near Randall School/safety of children/walking patterns affected 1, 31 2

Island refuge doesn't slow traffic 3, 31 2

Make sure Spooner/Monroe light lets pedestrians call the 'walk' signal 1 1

Wants to see big picture 39 1

Will increase traffic on residential streets 40 1

Traffic estimates not accurate/underestimated 65 1

Control traffic on Grant/Drake 57 1

Traffic strengths Card number Total

Love refuge island 10, 24 2

Traffic solutions are exciting 42 1

Likes changes to Harrison 24 1

Likes public parking 24 1

Parking Card number Total

Appreciate commitment to parking/likes parking design 38, 52, 66 3

Need 1 more level of underground parking 61 1

Need at least double the number of public parking spaces 61 1

More parking is good for businesses but not residents 31 1

Parking/lot visibility issues must be addressed for benefit of other businesses 22 1

Employee parking? 18 1

Miscellaneous comments Card number Total

Will make 1800 block of West Lawn less desirable/lower property values 2, 14, 41 3

Need closure/tired of blight of vacant lot/build something! 26, 47, 48 3

Like to see what signage is going to look like 18 1

Sensitive treatment of semis at site 10 1

Doesn't affect just VNA & West Lawn area/involve RNA, too 24 1

Thanks for taking this away from High Pointe/developers from hell 56 1

Kudos for good work so far 10 1

Developer mentioned ideas other than a grocery store; what are they? 58 1

General comments on meeting itself Card number Total

Well organized/informative/good presentation/interesting 6, 8, 52, 62 4

Architect well-spoken/inspired confidence 22 1

Pro Willy St. Co-op	Card number	Total
Prefer Willy St. Co-op over Trader Joe's	7, 9, 10, 11, 13, 14, 17, 19, 20, 27, 30, 32, 34, 35, 36, 37, 39, 42, 45, 48, 50, 52, 53, 55, 56, 57, 60, 62, 63, 64, 66	31
Is local/committed to Madison	10, 13, 19, 30, 34, 35, 41, 48, 50, 63	10
Is a full-scale grocery store/can buy daily needs	10, 37, 50, 59, 60, 64, 65	7
Attracts less traffic/parking	14, 53, 55, 57, 64	5
More suitable for this neighborhood	17, 36, 39, 53	4
Has healthy/fresh/quality food	46, 53, 56, 57	4
Won't compete/be a rival to Regent Co-op	19, 20, 50	3
Gives back to the community	19, 30, 35	3
Pays a living wage	19	1
Better environmental impact	10	1
Is member owned	13	1
Understands/draws student population	55	1

Anti-Willy St. Co-op	Card number	Total
		0

Pro-Trader Joe's	Card number	Total
Loves/likes Trader Joe's	1, 57	2

Anti-Trader Joe's	Card number	Total
Not a full-scale grocer/not fresh food/like an upscale stop 'n go/so-called "gourmet" foods/Yuppie store/can't fulfill all needs	4, 34, 37, 46, 60, 64	6
Will bring in more traffic/parking problems	10, 31, 41, 55, 64, 66	6
Doesn't fit in with the neighborhood	11	1
Won't shop there	31	1
Primarily commuter store	35	1
Tourist destination	65	1
Not a neighborhood grocery store/gathering place	10	1

Miscellaneous comments on grocery store	Card number	Total
Appreciate commitment to providing a grocery store	22, 27, 30, 49, 57, 66	6
Concerned about negative impact on Regent Co-op	1, 8, 24, 29	4
Important that grocer be long-term/make lease affordable, especially initially	14, 17	2
Either Willy St. Co-op or Trader Joe's is acceptable	49, 59	2
Prefer Willy St. Co-op, but Trader Joe's is acceptable	57	1

Concerns with building design	Card number	Total
Too tall/too massive/out of scale for neighborhood/not in keeping with neighborhood character/make at least 1 story shorter	1, 2, 11, 12, 14, 15, 16, 18, 24, 25, 28, 31, 36, 39, 40, 41, 43, 51, 54, 56, 58, 59, 61, 62,	24
Don't like color/yellow too bright	1, 9, 10, 32, 33, 36, 56, 60	8
Will cast shadow on nearby residences/block out sunlight/obliterate view of sky	13, 14, 24, 30, 40, 49, 54, 58	8
Air/noise/light pollution/lights at night from parking lot/grocery store	3, 14, 25, 30, 41, 47, 58	7
Don't like number of units/inhabitants	14, 25	2
Don't like round windows	18	1
Don't like modern/contemporary design	24	1
Curved aspect above tip of building is pretentious	56	1
Doesn't like height on Spooner side	18	1
Facade facing downtown is too grand	24	1
Built out to corners/not enough open space	40	1
Looks like suburban office park	56	1
Loading entrance on West Lawn means more noise for residents	58	1

Strengths of building design	Card number	Total
Overall design impressive/excellent/imaginative/like it/support it/great project	5, 6, 9, 10, 16, 17, 18, 19, 21, 22, 25, 29, 35, 37, 38, 41, 42, 43, 45, 47, 48, 49, 52, 54, 64, 66	26
Thoughtful design/attempts to address neighborhood's needs/developers responsive	5, 11, 24, 35, 37, 38, 42, 49, 59	9
Height is best we can hope for if we want a grocery store/necessary to support cost of development/benefits of grocery store outweigh costs of infill development	33, 38, 47, 65, 66	5
Like multiple faÃ§ades/attempts to break up faÃ§ade	10, 11, 24, 36	4
Like/need condos in area	7, 10, 25, 53	4
Like density	25	1
Like creative entryways	56	1
Like creative parking solutions	56	1
Like terrace garden	42	1
Like colonnade	56	1
Happy to have affordable housing in neighborhood

Comments on public plaza	Card number	Total
Don't like concrete/cold/unwelcoming/unnatural/plaza needs grass/greenery	3, 16, 21, 42	4
Get rid of phallic symbol in center of plaza/tree or fountain instead	32, 34, 56	3
Plaza needs definition	30	1
Monroe St. Commercial Plan folks should be involved in plaza design/uses/landscaping	10	1
How about hedge screening from Monroe/Grant intersection?	21	1
People meet on sidewalk/in store/don't need big common area	27	1
Spooner St. end jars eye above the first floor	33	1
Like circular plaza	32	1

Other comments on building design	Card number	Total
Not in favor of city subsidy just so we can get a shorter building	38	1
Opens door for high-rise developments on Monroe Street	40	1
Will "green" building techniques be used (besides recycling)?	50	1
Looks very "4th Ward infill-ish"	33	1
Reassured by developer's ties to neighborhood	35	1
Believes people will be genuinely excited about Monroe Commons	15	1
Happy to have affordable housing in neighborhood	49	1

Alternatives/Ideas/Suggestions	Card number	Total
Wants to see perspective drawings/relationship to rest of neighborhood/comparable developments in Madison	12, 32 38, 45, 59, 61	6
Consider a development without a grocery store/with more small retail/give up grocery store to get smaller building	2, 58	2
Keep building materials consistent with neighborhood/use brick	16, 32, 33	1
Include bike racks/covered bike parking/bus benches	32, 47	2
Could library go in additional retail space?	29, 32	2
Wants a hardware store	59	1
Wants a video store	23	1
Arthur Ross should be involved in discussions	3	1
Make the building go deeper in exchange for shorter	30	1
Get rid of plaza in exchange for shorter building	27	1
Like to see everything on a web page	38	1
Maximize energy efficiency/geothermal/solar	47	1
Be a leader on construction/demolition waste	47	1
Improve on current stormwater situation	47	1
Put parking under plaza so building isn't so large at Spooner corner	18	1
Project needs more outdoor "hanging out" space	30	1
Address safety at night, especially on plaza end/doors to underground parking	36	1
Could address height issue by varying height/accentuating the "3 different buildings"	54	1

Traffic Concerns	Card number	Total
Increased traffic on West Lawn & Harrison/dangerous for pedestrians/needs calming device	2, 14, 25, 41	4
Increased traffic near Randall School/safety of children/walking patterns affected	1, 31	2
Island refuge doesn't slow traffic	3, 31	2
Make sure Spooner/Monroe light lets pedestrians call the 'walk' signal	1	1
Wants to see big picture	39	1
Will increase traffic on residential streets	40	1
Traffic estimates not accurate/underestimated	65	1
Control traffic on Grant/Drake	57	1

Traffic strengths	Card number	Total
Love refuge island	10, 24	2
Traffic solutions are exciting	42	1
Likes changes to Harrison	24	1
Likes public parking	24	1

Parking	Card number	Total
Appreciate commitment to parking/likes parking design	38, 52, 66	3
Need 1 more level of underground parking	61	1
Need at least double the number of public parking spaces	61	1
More parking is good for businesses but not residents	31	1
Parking/lot visibility issues must be addressed for benefit of other businesses	22	1
Employee parking?	18	1

Miscellaneous comments	Card number	Total
Will make 1800 block of West Lawn less desirable/lower property values	2, 14, 41	3
Need closure/tired of blight of vacant lot/build something!	26, 47, 48	3
Like to see what signage is going to look like	18	1
Sensitive treatment of semis at site	10	1
Doesn't affect just VNA & West Lawn area/involve RNA, too	24	1
Thanks for taking this away from High Pointe/developers from hell	56	1
Kudos for good work so far	10	1
Developer mentioned ideas other than a grocery store; what are they?	58	1

General comments on meeting itself	Card number	Total
Well organized/informative/good presentation/interesting	6, 8, 52, 62	4
Architect well-spoken/inspired confidence	22	1

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