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Present: Ken Golden, Tom and Dave Keller, Mark Olinger - city planning, Dan McCormack - traffic engineer for city transportation, Peter Rafferty, Tom Huber, Bob Goode, Char Thompson, Daryl Sherman, Audrey Highton, and about 25 residents from the West Lawn area
List of residents major concerns:
Volume at West Lawn and Harrison intersection
Safety of walk to school route
Speed and volume on Keyes, Spooner, West Lawn, Harrison, and Grant
All truck movement around development
Noise implications of trucks
Parking lot access/underground - volume and sight lines
Increased parking on West Lawn
Volume and traffic from Spooner to MoSt
Ability to get across MoSt at Harrison
Angled parking on Harrison, metered or not
Metered parking anywhere (cars migrate elsewhere when there are meters)
Diversion of traffic from MoSt to elsewhere
Whether to make Harrison a 1-way
Amount of trips out of 12,000 sqft grocery and from 45 units above
(Traffic statistics are not calculated by the square footage of a grocery.)
Amount of MoSt traffic at ultimate peak when UW and schools in session
Dave Keller
There will be approx. 48 units and 66 stalls for the residents - 1.37
spaces/unit, e.g. most one bed units are 1 car owners, 2 bed - 2
cars
Refuge island on MoSt in front of Neuhauser's and MoCo(Monroe Commons)
8 stalls/1000 sqft is industry standard for a grocery store, this is
plan is at 5 stalls
Ken G - there is a cost factor in whether parking is ramped or on
ground level
Peter Rafferty of Short, Elliot, and Henderson - traffic engineers
Current traffic - Spooner 3500 vehicles/day, Grant 6500, West Lawn 1000
Weekday peaks are 7-9 am, and 5-7 pm which is 20% heavier than morning
Residential (50 unit estimate) peak about 15-20 vehicles coming and
going in 1 hour at peak which equals about 350 trips/day
Grocery would generate 10.5trips/1000 sqft or 65 trips in and out during
peak hour
Retail at about 5-10 trips/hr at peak
Total equals 80-90 trips/hr (includes walking, bus and bike trips) Note:
downtown residential units have as much as 40% of traffic coming
and going on foot, bike, or bus.
Other comments by those present:
refuge island not going to slow traffic
abuse of path by those who ride bikes and do not stop at stop signs
Luedke building has 108 employees and 54 spaces, thus creates much of spillover to West Lawn
Must enforce pedestrian crosswalks
45 units in MoCo with only 64 spots? KG - If level of parking
deficient city will look at code required parking and city may
regulate the number of permits issued.
Keys to success for MoCo project:
Reaction of staff report to project, alders to project, neighborhood
Possible solutions:
Right turns only at specific hours
Speed bumps on Harrison and West Lawn
Bumping out corners (e.g. WL to discourage traffic further down Harrison
or WL)
KG strongly suggest WL residents petition city for resident only permit
parking on WL
*****Tentative additional neighborhood meeting around September 28*****
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